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Close, eh?What's your call on Prop 8?
I'd guess 311 Obama.
I think Obama will break 400. Has that ever been done? I wonder.Prop 8 will go down in flames. The 'old white establishment' was wrecked for good on that same island Johnny Depp ended up on in Pirates 3 due to the current President. He may have done the country good after all.I think some things have changed finally and we're not very likely to go back that direction any time soon. I believe it's equal to the day when Jim Crow was repealed, or WWII ended. Too many people have been roused from slumber, which is always the greatest threat of all in American Politics. Now, all they have to do is vote it in.
Notice ...I gave Louisiana to Obama ... that was the only state I went against current polling data on.I believe that with Katrina and the general population in that state, it should go blue. I'll be watching that one close on Tuesday. I also think McCain will lose Arizona.
Prop 8 down in flames? In which California? Certainly in San Francisco? Certainly in Hollywood, right? Probably in Silicon Valley. But what about all the rest of California? Before I moved out here I was convinced California was Baywatch. Well, if not just that then also whatever Hollywood led me to believe. It didn't take long to realize I'd been taken. Of course, I shouldn't have been so foolish but one walk down the boardwalk in Santa Cruz told me I wasn't about to see Pamela Anderson. Or at least not hundreds of Pamela Andersons. Could the world survive hundreds of Pamela Andersons? I was young and foolish enough I thought I might.But California's conservatism has surprised me. So I'm not hopeful that Prop 8 will be defeated. But I am hopeful that if it does pass, it's momentum will be short-lived.
Part of my concern is that with an Obama landslide, many California Obama supporters may not vote later in the day, which seems like to reduce the number of No on Prop 8 votes.
I think more people vote on community concerns than they are given credit for, even in the small numbers that they do show up in. Does that make any sense? lol.Also, even the late voters will want to toss in their chit for Obama even if they hear on the radio while driving to the polling station that Obama has 'gone landslide'.I would be surprised to hear that 8 passes. The moral authority is out there. I know that you personally take umbrage with them continually with your studies and philosphies, but they're still in the ever shrinking-minority.
Here's Real Clear Politics Electoral Map with No Toss Up Stateshttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10They differ with you on GA, LA, AR, MO, IN .. and AZ (from what I can see). So they'd come in at 353 Obama/Biden (with no tossups). With tossups, they are at 238 solid Obama/Biden and 40 Leaning to them for a total of 278 and a victory ...even ignoring their tossups.So history may indeed be made and the union saved (salvaged?).
Meanwhile the impression I get is that a lot of people think that the Bush administration has failed ... and measured against what it intended completely it no doubt has ... but I don't think most people grasp that it has succeeded greatly, far beyond what it should ever have gotten away with ... if all of us had been on the ball. These past 8 years are the times many of us will look back and feel that we failed as U.S. citizens ... to get out on the streets and anywhere else we could have made our will known.
If you look at the polls from CNN/MSNBC/FOX you can get a better grasp than one set/source of polls. But they're like a wind-gauge - I think - and not much better.
How's Obama 268 vs. McCain 213 sound? This is the latest (polls per state) from a site that had had Obama much farther ahead? Are they trying to cover themselves in the event of a McCain victory? http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/electoral-college-results.html
I'm feeling more hopeful based on some late polls that Prop 8 will be defeated. The Christian Right makes a lot of noise ... but hopefully it won't have even the simple majority to take these rights away.
Yeah, I saw some of that earlier today. I think we're about to see a landslide. The news has been cautious of reporting this for all the obvious reasons. If they predicted a landslide then even more McCain voters and shenanigans would ensue.Yeah, as a Californian, I've seen props like 8 before and they always get shot down. It's just too divisive.
I still think Barack will break 400.
I'll offer you this "bet":If Barack breaks 400, I'll buy 1 copy of the new Lulu edition of "Yellow Fever".If Barack wins but gets less than 401 votes but more than 300 votes, I'll buy 1 copy of " Observations of a Dead Man".If Barack wins with less than 301 votes, you have to read my "novel" (provided I decide to make it available).If Barack loses, you have to read my "novel" and tell me it's brilliant :-) (provided I decide to make it available).
Well ... 378 to 159 not bad ... but not 400.
378? Well, I lost my bet anyway so I'll be reading "Observations of a Dead Man" but the count I see is 364 with Missouri still uncalled but up .2% for McCain. Even if Missouri went Obama with its 11 votes, that would only be 375. Other impressive counts were the popular vote, 61.1% for Barach, only 37.1% for McCain. http://www.sfgate.com/election/races/2008/11/04/CA/c/p_president/p_0/g_general/c/california.shtml
Whoops, that 61.1% for Barach was in California, nationwide it was 52.5% for Barach to 46.2% for McCain.
Like most I thought Georgia and Arkansas was going to swing Obama.I was also off on Louisiana and we're all still waiting on Missouri.Arizona was just a dream. They can now go back to not celebrating MLK day. I'm sure John McCain will support legislation to stop recognizing that holiday in his state.
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I suppose years from now I will remember this as the election when I got stuck buying OOADM!So Missouri went to McCain.
I guess CNN was the last to report it. Well 400 would've been nice to see.